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Who Really Has Control? A Dominatrix Reveals All w/ Goddess Kylie Kassh
Kylie Kassh, professional dominatrix of 17 years and content creator, shares her journey from accidental dom to lifestyle professional in this candid conversation about power dynamics, boundaries, and the business of domination.
• Discovered her dominatrix potential when a friend noticed her naturally commanding style with boyfriends
• Began her career working in a Chicago dungeon where she trained under experienced dominatrixes
• Learned her boundaries early when confronted with medical play involving needles during her first day
• Underwent an "initiation" that confirmed her purely dominant nature when she couldn't handle being restrained
• Explains the difference between lifestyle doms, switches, and subs in the BDSM community
• Shares her favorite fetishes including flogging, cross-dressing clients, tease and denial techniques
• Owns approximately 17 floggers ranging from inexpensive to $500 specialty pieces
• Discusses the massage fetish and how it represents a natural power exchange
• Reveals many clients are married men whose partners aren't interested in exploring fetishes
• Sets firm boundaries on certain practices while maintaining others, particularly avoiding "scat play"
• Plans to continue working indefinitely as "there are no age brackets in domination"
• Maintains separate personal and professional lives while acknowledging they sometimes overlap
• Provides consulting services beyond domination work through her business ventures
If you're interested in learning more about Kylie's work, follow her on Instagram at Goddess_kylie_kassh or visit her consulting business at Kashwealthfirm.com.
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the no id podcast. It is me, your host, rome davis. I am interviewing content creator. Uh, good spirit, she's not the first one, but she's probably gonna be the best one. Uh, you may know her as miss kitty pain. Goddess, kylie cash.
Speaker 2:I just know her as kylie cash yep say hello to kylie cash everybody hey guys, what's up for seven uppers?
Speaker 1:how are you feeling today? Well, we talked about a little bit before we recorded, but how's your day going?
Speaker 2:fantastic.
Speaker 1:It's better than it was this weekend for me hurting my knee on that, but I'm good you good yeah, if you guys don't know, miss callie cash is a content creator and a dominatrix at the same sentence all around. Uh, entrepreneur, but you know, to some people we like to say hustler. So I'm gonna just put, all in all, just a good yeah, and I've been, I've been doing some research. You were highly referred from your, from a business bestie that I'm not gonna say their name yes, I love my business besties.
Speaker 1:They're amazing uh, yeah, you're the business best. They refer to me. She's a great person. Great person, great spirit. So how long have you been in the dominatrix game and what made you start?
Speaker 2:oh, wow, the story behind domination. Okay, so I've been in the dominatrix world I'm about to age myself now so, um, it's been about 17 years. Yeah, yeah, it's been about 17 years. Yeah, yeah, it's been a while. And, um, I it is so funny how I started.
Speaker 2:I kind of it was just a fluke actually, because I was in school for fashion marketing management and there was this girl who was um I'm going to use this word, even though people say it's like um, it's not the word to use, but that's the only word I be knowing because my old self be knowing them OG words. Okay, she's a trainee, right, okay, so we were really close friends. And then she would always listen to me, talk to my boyfriends on the phone, and I'd be like who you talking to? I don't know. Okay, done with you and hang up right. Or I'd be like don't you talk, I don't know who you talking to, I, you, and hang up Right. Or I'd be like don't you talk, I don't know who you're talking to, I'm not your mama and I'm not, I'm not your wife, and I hang up. I'd be like you're not my daddy, I don't know who you are Hang up. So she would like listen to me, talk to my exes like that all the time.
Speaker 2:And one day she goes. I don't know who they think they're talking to. I mean, I don't get it. And then so she was like you know, you can get paid for that. I was like wait, you wait, wait a minute. What did you say? She was like you can get paid to talk to me like that. I was like wait, so I can get paid to talk to me and the way I talk to these fools all the time. She was like yeah. So I was like well, she signed me up, sign me up right now. So she was like yeah. So I was like well, she signed me up, sign me up right now. So she was like just all you got to do is go and look and like Google, because Google wasn't around, it was right there. Google like dungeons in your city and see if they're looking for dominatrices to hire. And that's how it started.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's exactly how it started, and that was 17 years ago yeah, and I worked in a dungeon in chicago and this is before social media. So how did you get just outside of? How did you get yourself out there? Because now social media makes everything on demand. You got only fans and all these many visions of how did that?
Speaker 2:how did it start? How did?
Speaker 2:that come about so only fans has been around for a very long time. I actually been on only fans since they actually started. Um, I want to say like 20 man 2012, 2013 or something like that, and back then it wasn't like now it was. It was for fan base and I used to be a model and I did modeling. So I did modeling, runway stuff like that, and so I had a fan base and I would have to literally tell them from Twitter because Twitter was there and what was the MySpace? Good old MySpace. So I had to literally tell them like hey, go to my fan site, I will post other pictures there.
Speaker 2:But there was no, there was no nudity, anything. It was just me in swimsuit wear or implied nude, but never any like full-blown bam in your face. None of that, um. But I was on there and so literally had to like if I post something, I have to go tell them that I posted it so they can go look at it. It was crazy, but that took too much work, so I stopped doing that for a while.
Speaker 2:But how I got out there as a dom was, you know, we had those magazines back in the day, you know, after dark yeah, yeah I had to post ads in the magazines and then, um, you do, uh, there had, we had some forums, but they were like um, oh my god, what was the aol forums? Aol forums you've got mail yeah, I was on there and then like, um, the other one is, uh, fetlife. It's been around for a very long time, so I was on there as well and that's how, like, people got to know me and realize who I was.
Speaker 1:So yeah, oh man. So I remember fetlife. Okay, I used to go on dating apps like a tag.
Speaker 1:Tag is where I met one young lady at we're not young at the time but I had met one at and she was like, yeah, I'm into fat life. So I I didn't know nothing about it, because the first time we met up we actually argued. We fussed, like like kick me out that, like she's invited me over the house, kick me out the house. I like got up close like yo, like you're not gonna talk to me, reckless. So she was like, yeah, I'm on fet life and I'm a dom and this is what turns me on. I was like, well, I'm not into that you're like not me.
Speaker 2:Now I mean, I'm not that way, I'm not that guy like I'm from the hood.
Speaker 1:All right, we are. I'm gonna walk away and don't come behind me like don't be following me but like it it's. It was, it was. It was interesting because that was not my first experience. I think my first experience was I don't know if you remember this or even know of this it was something called rudecom.
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Rude was like my space for that. Okay, it was like a mass base for amateur porn.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:You will upload stuff from your cell phone. I do remember it because also because it was close it was a lot of people went from rude to black planet yeah the rude yes, I remember it was wild, I was like it was different back then and I was 18 when I first discovered it, so you can only imagine yeah, I was already in my 20s.
Speaker 2:I was already past when I started doming.
Speaker 1:I was about 24 now you said you worked at a dungeon. I did how was that? How was your first experience actually having a sub is that what the proper term is? How was that first experience with having a sub and did it? Was it hard or did it get easier as time went past?
Speaker 2:or so my first experience of a sub was with the head dom, headmist mistress, in the dungeon we worked with. So basically they wouldn't book me with anybody right away because I was new and I didn't know anything, and so they made me read a lot of damn books every day, every day. I'm reading books every day. Um, but when we had sessions, we I would have to go in with a head dom and then she would just basically coach me through the session with her as her second dom. So we double dom. So my first experience was the guy wanted to be spanked and whipped and I didn't know what I was doing and she was like you're doing good, but don't hit him there. You're're doing good, but don't hit him there. You're doing good, but don't hit him there. I was like, look in my head. I'm like, well, why am I supposed to hit him? Like you say, hit him. I don't even know what I'm doing. Okay, so, but I got the swing of things eventually. But then that same day we had a session that was, and she, she forewarned me before I went in there. She was it's going to be a little gory. If you're, if you're not into blood, let me know, do you faint or anything? We see blood. I was like, nah, I'm good, I can handle it.
Speaker 2:Um, so the in this particular session, I was, I was, I was a little freaked out because we use needles and we pierced his man area all the way up and so she was like this is how you do it, this is where you do it and this is how you do it. Don't go further, don't go less, because you can, you can injure him. And they were like needles, like what you would do in acupuncture, so they were really small, but the wall, but you, we were literally. Yeah, it freaked me out because some he bled some a little bit, not like out or anything. Um, because they, they were trained to, they know exactly where to put it, so you don't bleed out or anything.
Speaker 2:But that was my first day and I, I was like I don't want to do this part. And if this, this, what? Like? I don't want to do this part. If this is what this is, I don't want to do this part, this is not for me. And she's like no, not everybody comes in for this particular client. This is his kink. And I was like, oh, so they all got different kinks and then they went into exactly a lot of the different kinks that everyone goes into.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, well, I can't do this one, but we can work on the other ones, cause that one scared the shit out of me, I swear, cause it's so medical and I'm like I don't like that. I think I'm skirmish a little bit, especially when it comes to like piercing people. Yeah, I can't. That was crazy, but that was like my first day and so basically I was scared and like intimidated, because these women have so much confidence. It is crazy. Now I know I'm not a bad looking woman. I look pretty well, right, I know this. But they weren't as beautiful as me, but their confidence was so magnificent that you couldn't tell. You couldn't tell. So if they were walking around before me they would exude much more beauty than I would at that time, because their confidence overshadowed whatever it is. They looked like they're just like there, so it was extremely intimidating my whole thing is like I hear that.
Speaker 1:But like how do you discover a fetish? Like, yeah, I want to be pringed on my penis, like I don't like what, what? What in your brain said, you know, try this. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I asked them like how does he, how did he even get into this? And I remember distinctly because the one fetish that I just can't get into and I've, you know, I pierced someone myself their nipples, but never anything else besides that one time. But I asked them like how does someone get into that? Like what I think is weird. So she said that like he has a prince albert, which is where it goes, like that, and so he really wants more tattoo, more piercings, but he doesn't want them permanent, so he prefers to just get pierced with needles because he likes the feeling. The rush is a rush for him. The feeling the rush, it's a rush for him.
Speaker 2:The pain is a rush, yeah, I can imagine, because I don't even want no piercing down there Imagine. But it was an experience, I must say, on the first day.
Speaker 1:I'm day like you know what. I think I'm gonna go to church tomorrow, right?
Speaker 2:I swear. I was like I feel like I'm doing something so dirty and so wrong. Oh, but I got over that and I was just like, okay, can we not, can I not do any of the medical, because I don't like medical. But they have to put you in different situations and different fetishes to see what your limit is, what you can handle and what you can't. And even, like my first week, you go in your first week you go through a kind of like initiation where you they have to figure out whether you mentally are a sub, a switch, or a dominant. I am dominant, 100 percent, because I went through all the stages of grief In less than five minutes, which is crazy. So what happened is they, they, they tied me up so I couldn't move. So what happened is they tied me up so I couldn't move. And then she had a vibrator in that area right, and then she blindfolded me and left me.
Speaker 2:Now I swear to God, I went through all the stages of grief. I was upset, sad, crying, and then I was trying to barter with myself like, okay, bitch, you won't let this, what are you going to do? And then I just calmed down and just let the rest of my time go past because there's nothing else I could do. And I talked to her. She was like well, how do you feel? I was like yeah, I wanted to kill everybody up in here. I felt like if I got out, I wanted to kill everybody up in here. I felt like I wanted to. If I got out, I wanted to kill everybody up in here. And I was so unhappy and distraught that I was like I think I need to go home. I can't do this. She was like no, that just means that you are purely dominant. You cannot handle things upon you. You can do it, but you can't handle it from yourself. You're not a switch. So if you're in a situation where somebody's trying to dime you, that's just not going to work. Then I was like well, cool, I'm still ready to go home. I left for the rest of the day. I was like I got to go, I got to go home and collect myself.
Speaker 2:So they take you through a ritual. Some women and men. They actually can handle that and they get turned on by it and it's invigorating for them. It's a rush For me. I was pure anger. It was just pure anger Done. So unfortunately, I'm not. I can't switch. My brain doesn't work like that and I can't sub. I can try for a little bit and then it'll switch Like so quick that I'll be like, okay, we're done here. I may either have to take control of this or we're finished. We got two options yeah, your dom.
Speaker 1:And a switch is one that can go in between the sub and the dom. Yeah, and let's say you're a switch and you're already dominant. Let's say somebody's more dominant, they can make you a sub. Is that what I'm picking up on? Yeah, but that's say you're a switch and you already dominant. Let's say somebody is more dominant, they can make you a sub. Is that what I'm picking up on?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's if you allow it. Like you can you allow it. Everything is consensual. So some people who are more dominant than others there are a lot of switches who prefer to be dominated, but they still want their at home their partner. They dominate their partners, but in their other life they have a dom who dominates them. Or sometimes you'll have two switches, which is actually an amazing combination to have two switches, because both of them are comfortable being dom and both of them are comfortable being sub, so they can explore so many fetishes that are crazy extreme with each other and never have a problem. But if you switch it, one of them gonna have a problem one of the other, because the sub doesn't naturally, um, feel comfortable doming another person.
Speaker 1:So you're more subservient do you have like a favorite sub, or do you just like, oh it's, you know, just a roster Do you have a favorite sub.
Speaker 2:I do have a fave because I have two subs. One has been with me since almost day one, about 14, 15 years or so, and the other one has been with me about five years. I like them both, but my one that's been with me the longest, he's my favorite.
Speaker 1:Does that get like being a dominatrix and being recognized online? Does that get in the way of like your personal life? Let's just say hypothetically, man, be like. You know I want to take you out for drinks. Do you oil? Maybe a sub might be like you know. What I just want to get to know miss kitty, pain like god. Is kylie cash for the behind the personas is. Does that get in the way? Is that a little awkward? Because I'm pretty sure dudes be shooting their shots.
Speaker 2:They do shoot their shot. It doesn't get in the way for me. It does get in the way for them because they can't decipher who they're dealing with. Like a lot of guys will approach me and they have no idea that I am how I am and I don't really put it out there either because my normal life is my normal life. I just but I am a lifestyle dom versus just procession. So in my whole entire life I am dominant for the most part, but not controlling.
Speaker 2:So when I do discuss, when I meet new people and they're like oh my God, I like you, I'll just candidly be like yeah, but I'm a dominatrix. I don't know if you like me that much and they'd be like did you just say that? And I'm like yes, I did. And so a lot of times it turns them off and then they're like well, you can't, I'm not trying to have this and this and this done to me, and I'm not trying to have this and this and this done to me. And I'm just like nobody said I would do that, but good to know. But it's a sub coming to me and he's like oh, let's say, one of my subs that's a client and he wants to like, date me. I kind of draw the line with that nowadays because it's kind of like you don't date work, don't date people you work with.
Speaker 1:I try to. My dad used to say don't stick your dick in the paycheck. That's what he used to tell me.
Speaker 2:That's right, exactly so. I don't mess around with my subs like that and all my subs. There's no sexual intercourse at all, zero sexual.
Speaker 1:There's no sexual intercourse at all, zero. So, like me personally, I wouldn't have a problem dating with a dominatrix, because I'm not in that life. Right, I wouldn't have a problem. Uh, I wouldn't have a problem with her being in that life, because I'm like well shit right right it ain't gonna be me right the only problem I think I would have. Who was at a fan and reunion that brung you to? And somebody like, oh, I just I was in the dungeon. Like too, I'm like hey, hey, hey bro like yo.
Speaker 1:You know that was the lady I was telling you about I was telling you about it boy, you gotta keep a boy, oh my gosh, that's awesome. That would be so funny, though I think I'm like hey, everybody, if y'all don't know, this is my old lady right here. Uh, I need to write that down in my jokes. I'm sorry, that was actually pretty decent. I was just going out to her only fan. She told me she loved me. I think it's part of the gamut, bro, chill out.
Speaker 2:Now I have been places with my friends and a couple of people have recognized me and they're like, and I just be like, are you going to say something? Because if you are, you already know it's going to be about you. I don't think you want to say anything say something yeah hey, I know you.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I had the acupuncture on your penis two days ago. Oh, wait, wait, wait. I had the acupuncture on your penis two days ago. Oh wait, wait, wait. I'm with my wife. Told her I was out of town. That's where the money been going at, god damn it.
Speaker 2:That's okay. And you know, the craziest part is a lot of people who come to me, a lot of men who to me they are married.
Speaker 2:So I have to be very cautious and I ask them all are you married? Do you have a girlfriend? Do you live with them? Do you have kids? Like, I need to know these parameters so that I know right or not. Whatever I'm gonna do, I can't leave marks. Or I can't leave marks like how do they feel about that? Because depending on where they're going and what they're doing in their life, they may not be able to have marks shown. So I have to be like okay, what do you live alone? Are you single? Are you married? Do you have kids? Do you do anything that you have to show your body parts? No, okay, cool. So you pull with marks and they're usually like, yeah, as long as they don't last too long, okay better get some aloe vera plant or something right that aftercare, the aftercare is important.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. I forget well about that. Y'all see her cracking jokes like a mug and for the people listening and watching, I'm still stuck on the whole acupuncture of the penis. I'm like yeah right, yeah, it's crazy, it is crazy I know I know I have a friend that's in the foot fetish industry and a lot of married men come to her because either they want but don't want, they toes sucked or they don't have pretty feet. But they got a good personality and I was like, oh, that makes yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1:That makes sense.
Speaker 2:It's the same with them going to a dom, because most of the time I ask all of my clients like, okay, so how does your mate feel about this? They don't do this for you at home. Can they do anything? And they're like no, they're just vanilla, they don't do anything. We've tried and they don't like it. I just seek it out elsewhere. I'm like okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Is there a fetish where you draw the line at? I know it's like you got financial kinks. You got puppy, animal, puppy dressed up like an animal. You got the scat.
Speaker 2:I draw a line right there Sc, scat. I can't do golden showers. I can't, scat is no showers. Yes, it's insane. It's insane, golden showers yes yeah, I can get those, but I can't do scat like that's.
Speaker 1:That's gross so they like make a recommendation. Like I want you to dance a whole thing a red bull and just pour ammonia on me when you're peeing, like have you ever?
Speaker 2:that's a good one, though I've never heard that one. No, no. But I've had somebody ask me put in a glass, um, I've had somebody ask me to put in the ice, like make ice out of it so they can put it in ice cubes and put it in a drink, or whatever. I've had people just want it Just on their chest or on their face, but I just hover over.
Speaker 1:So you had the basketball court with your homies.
Speaker 2:Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me um, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get, let me get let me get, let, yeah, oh, my favorite subs are servants, our house subs, okay, those are the ones that actually they cater to me hand and foot.
Speaker 2:So, basically, almost whatever I need, whatever I want. I just be like, hey, I need you to do this, like yesterday because my knee was blown. I called myself. I'm like, hey, I need you to go buy my book. I'm gonna go pick up my book that I've purchased and sorry, yeah, I need, uh, ice cream, sherbert ice cream.
Speaker 1:So I have it here to me now so you lost me a sherbert ice cream, that fruit ice cream, shit isn't that.
Speaker 2:No, I'm good it's, not even ice cream, it's sherbet.
Speaker 1:You gave away your age. Next time. I was wondering oh, do you eat butter pecan?
Speaker 2:me. Oh, don't get me started on superman ice cream. Y'all can't find that.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, we can't.
Speaker 2:You got a couple spots. I got in. I know two of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's it. You get away.
Speaker 1:You're a bad one. Let me stop, because I might be in Chicago one time. What's up you little nerdy motherfucker Are?
Speaker 2:we eating some sherbet today? Oh no, out, because I might be in chicago one time. What's your little nerdy motherfucker? Oh no, you know, I'm not too tolerant I can't even hang rainbow cone.
Speaker 1:Let's go. Do you can plan on content, because you've been doing this 17 years. You're like a vet at this point, right yeah, you plan on I am. Are you planning on doing what LeBron doing and playing until you're just like, oh, I'm done?
Speaker 2:I don't plan on retiring ever. I don't actually believe in retirement. I believe in just refocusing and readjusting lifestyle versus retirement Retirement. I think that you're just going to ask them, so I won't know all that. I'm good, so yeah, I plan on keeping it up until I can. There's no age brackets in domination, so there are really really old people and young people and they they still feel they're kinks somewhere somewhat.
Speaker 1:So somebody Meemaw is out there right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I seen one last week when I was at the dungeon too. I was like, okay, just make sure y'all don't play with no electric stuff.
Speaker 1:I'd probably be like hey, my granddaughter couldn't upload this photo onto my OnlyFans. Can you do it for me? Do it, I can't forget my Wi-Fi password.
Speaker 2:That's the crazy. But you it's so funny because they have the best toys, the best toys like you. I'd be like where you, where you find that? Oh, girl, I bought this like 10 years, 20 years ago. I'm like they don't even make these toys anymore. This lady had the most beautiful vlogger I've ever seen. I like where did you get this? She was like girl, I bought this like 10, 20 years ago. They don't even make them like that anymore. It was like leather and it was like alligator skin on the handle. It had all the other leather. She said it was bison and it was cowhide, like bison and cow leather. It was so pretty and heavy and I was, oh my god, it's beautiful she probably ordered it through a catalog or something.
Speaker 1:I know amazon wasn't around when she was around back then, she didn't.
Speaker 2:She didn't have somebody make that one, they made it she went to the sears catalog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, page 37 yes, damn yeah, damn, I know, I had one young. Yeah, I had let me before I go into. I know that, especially since the pandemic, only fans was taking off because it was more interactive, and I live in virginia, where anything with the word porn is banned online. We can't search porn hubs. I don't know how it is where you at, but I knew only fans was really starting to pop and you saw a lot of people of age ranges 18 and up either subscribing or making money off of.
Speaker 1:One was paying, one was getting paid um so I can see where the older lady at that had the extravagant flogger and all that was coming from.
Speaker 2:Amazing, but she's been in the game for years. She was in the game when she was in her 20s and she was like 60s. She had to be 60, close to 70, because she looked old. I couldn't imagine well be like you when I get older? Yes, I do this.
Speaker 1:Oh man, what kinks and fetishes are you into, and do they cross over to your regular life? Or do you just like you know what? I only do this in the dungeon.
Speaker 2:Um, I won't take this too yeah, that's that yeah so one of my favorite fetishes or kinks is flogging. I absolutely love it. I own about 17 of them, different styles, different leathers, from cheap to $500 for the vloggers my favorite, I love it to the core. Some of the other kinks and fetishes I get into is I really like cross-dressing because I like dressing them up so they look like my girlfriends and we just hang out and have girl time. And then I enjoy Tease and Denial. It's one of my highest. I'm like an expert in tease, 100%. And then my other kinks.
Speaker 2:I have a money fetish and then my other kinks. I have a money fetish. I don't know when I start, but when it did it was amazing and still is to this day. And I have a shoe fetish. So between my shoes and my money, they be like together, because I keep buying shoes, even though I got over 200 pairs and they're all heels that I'm talking about, not my gym shoes or my other shoes. Those are probably like 15 pairs of those, but the 200 is like heels, all heels. And then I love the. I absolutely love the massage fetish.
Speaker 1:What's the massage fetish Is that when you're getting a massage or they're getting a massage.
Speaker 2:They get a massage. So the reality is is that most people, most people, don't think like this, right, but whenever you're on that massage table, you give away all of your control to that masseuse. So the masseuse is in control of you, so you can control your body movements. You can control your body like the pressure any you know. She can actually paralyze you if she really wanted to. But why would anybody do that? Nobody would do that, right, right, but at the end of the day, she's in control of your body and you're completely naked and she's not.
Speaker 2:So you're being 100% dominated by this individual. But most normal people not like the fetish world. Don't think of it that way, but reality, that's exactly how it is. Um, don't think of it that way, but reality, that's exactly how it is. So I enjoy taking all the control away from individuals on my table at all times, so it's fantastic I know, when I was 18 was a weird year for me, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:2007 was like oh, I'm grown, I'm out of high school, I could do what I want to do. I actually started um, I don't know if it is a fetish. I started dating older women, like maybe 40 and up, and I was dating an older woman not dating, we were just messing around yeah, just measuring. Yeah, just having fun, like I. I love that she couldn't get a period I could just call up anytime I wanted to okay, you want to hang out? Yeah, let's go it was like we didn't even go out.
Speaker 1:It was just like oh, I'm at the house, oh, come on through and then it was experimentation with um massage because she did on the massage she had a massage table in her her room and I'm sharing this with these folks. I don't know, people probably think I'm capping. I probably said it on the previous episode, but at that same time I was on rude and I think I just had like a little avatar emoji with afro and whatever and uh and mass bait. There was like an animated dude, but it was like real buff, he had tattoos on it.
Speaker 1:It was just a fake image or whatever and I couldn't do nothing because I didn't upload anything yeah, so I was like I just was going to there to watch and, um, she was older and this is so older woman rudecom. And then, uh, mass space, mass space.
Speaker 2:Used to have have some videos yeah, that you wanted to be up there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that it was a. It was one up there that I just couldn't stop watching. She was, I guess she was like in a dungeon or something and all she did was just barefoot and I was like, well, I want to try it with the older woman. I tried it with her and I got into the foot thing a little bit and then what I had like we were saying earlier, women, girls, my age wasn't into that, but the older women were- yeah and then when we all got older, then they got into I'm like, what the hell was this at?
Speaker 2:back, when you were younger, looking for it yeah, I was looking for it, it was underground it was underground, yeah, and I was like what the hell?
Speaker 1:and I got two pounds. Yeah, I paid. I paid for the um the pedicure yeah that shit did not work. I was like, oh okay, it wasn't until I actually hooked up with one that was a model and I was like, oh, this is what I've been missing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the massage row has a very. There's a line between the two and it's a pretty thick line too. It is a pretty thick line but within that there's so many things that you can do when you can join fetish and massage together. So I actually do at times bondage, where I do bondage and massage at the same time. So basically, my clients will be tied up and I'll use either I use floggers, paddles, um ice well, I just use ice packs because I have this, these little ice packs, because it's cold and they stay in the freezer and it's easy to clean um, I also use candles for the heat and, um, it's basically, uh, sensory deposition the whole time. So a light feather, some whipping here and there, but it's nothing heavy, it's all light and it's all just for stimulation and massage at the same time. It's a bond massage. So when you can join it too, it's a crazy, amazing experience. Your body goes into a totally different realm I've had massages um, so I know it.
Speaker 2:Oh god I think about adding an extra to a massage nah, yeah so much fun.
Speaker 1:It's amazing you know what, maybe one day. Yeah, you know, my gas tank ran out.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like you know, when you get a massage and they use their nails on you instead of just the hands and they lightly scratch you.
Speaker 1:I never had that part. I had somebody step on my back.
Speaker 2:I'm like what.
Speaker 1:No, you need that.
Speaker 2:That's next level.
Speaker 1:I'm not next level, I just tell jokes. I just tell jokes, and then I'm like I'm good, you know what I mean. I just tell jokes. I go to work, I go to the gym, I do my interviews, I read, and that's it. You know what I mean. Like, I just tell jokes. I go to work, I go to the gym, I do my interviews, I read, and that's it. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:like the next level, the next book. What are we? What?
Speaker 1:are we doing? You know, like my biggest fear is some of that stuff is like maybe I record a video or something and like I was talking about the family room, like dog, I just saw Rome the other day drinking piss out of a Gatorade bottle.
Speaker 2:I'm like okay that would be hilarious you know black people.
Speaker 1:I actually never fear that ever you know, black people, we make a nickname about anything.
Speaker 2:What's up, pissy bruh yes, that is so true you brush your teeth this morning?
Speaker 1:yeah, I brushed them. Your teeth still a little yellow. I guess you didn't drink enough water. You know we don't roast anything, so I'm sorry oh my gosh, yeah, I never.
Speaker 2:So I swear I never, uh, think about it. Maybe it's because I used to be a dancer back in my younger years for like 10 years straight and I had to come to the realization that somebody might come in and see me. So how I just rearrange that in my head is, if they come in here and be like oh, I'm going to tell people what you do, and my rebuttal is I'm going to tell them that you pay for it. Would you like the fact that you came in them doors? You saw me, you paid for it. Or are you going to tell them that I didn't? I mean, either way it goes, we both going to be under fire. So yours going to be worse, though, because you paid for it. So that's why I don't ever worry.
Speaker 2:So when people be like aren't you afraid your daughter's going to find out that I'm like look, she don't find out one way or another for one, because she knows you like that, and stuff. For two, if she found out, that sounds like a her problem, I have to coax her through how to figure out how to run through life about how things work on that platform. So don't be nosy. But also I'm like well, the only way she find out honestly if somebody told her, and if I find out who told her, I'm just gonna tell her how, how they found out true, somebody did tell her it's probably her friends and her friends so that means her parents what you want hmm, hmm watch it and you watching me there's a million out there you watching me.
Speaker 2:You paid for it because everything I got out there is for sale, not for free.
Speaker 1:I can only imagine that. I know you watched it big, but you see no school shoes on your feet. Jimmy's mama paid for that last week funny, funny.
Speaker 2:You say that she actually because back in the day I used to be a cam girl and she used to be super nosy. She's always had her own computer and everything, but she wanted to be a mommy's computer. So she went on my computer and she saw my webcam stuff. So one day she says mommy, why do you be on that webcam doing that stuff? I said the same reason why I got to pay for you to go to school.
Speaker 2:Somebody got to put a foot on this table. Your daddy ain't doing it. I don't know what we're doing here. We live alone, I don't know. After that she stopped asking me. She didn't stop going to my computer, but she stopped asking me.
Speaker 1:but she didn't stop going to my computer, but she stopped asking me, she stopped asking you stop asking me yeah, I want to bring you back on I know, that sounds crazy but I want to bring. I want to do a two-part to this because for the people that's listening, I gotta leave them on a suspense all right you did say massage, yeah, and we talked about. I've been trying to yes I'm trying, I don't know I appreciate that yeah, I wanna. I wanna make sure I come correct, because the last thing I want to do is bring anything yeah ill to what you got going on, but this has definitely been interesting.
Speaker 1:I can't wait. Here's the fuck. Here's the crazy thing about it is. I tell my mom who I interview and we was when you me, you was communicating. He's like you have a variety of guests. Yes, I do. I go from a comedian to a porn star, to a rapper, to a wrestler, to a top about something. Anytime I feel like I don't know why I do that shit, but it works it's entertaining and it's working.
Speaker 2:It's amazing it is, and those conversations would be pretty darn good oh well, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, you're welcome. You almost talked the drawers off me. I'm just kidding, it's just jokes, these jokes, these uh I'm not into that at all, so I've ever seen you bring it out. I'm like I hope she's like fanning the fly. I'm not I'm okay. Oh my gosh, I love it I only had one woman trying to do that, flogging, spanking shit to me, and I looked at her like I know you joking because when I'm lactose intolerant, so I don't know what's going on back there half the day.
Speaker 2:What is that I ate pasta.
Speaker 1:You got me laying on my stomach. I'm I'm ready to go home. It's got the cheese sweats in this bitch. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Come on, Jess.
Speaker 1:You can't process that. I can't eat that butter pecan. That's why I got mad with you about sherbet, because I'm like, and you've been drinking that little smoothie, I'm like, I'm jealous as hell right now.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's no milk in this. This is all non-dairy, which is great, okay, yeah, no milk in this this is all non-dairy, which is great, okay yeah, thank god, but I need that protein because I need gotta recover fruit, fruit, fruit. I got um, what's that other one with all the seeds in it? I forgot it's yellow. Oh, dragon fruit and some grapes. I got all that good stuff I'm old school.
Speaker 1:I just got strawberries.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to cleanse it all out. I'm like okay, you just got to eat fresh fruit, you got to keep switching it up. Still got some cucumbers and tomatoes.
Speaker 1:You know you get to a certain age, you got to start stretching in the morning before you start your day.
Speaker 2:Gee, I know I'm learning. God dang it these same knees, baby. I tell you, boy, I don't know my age, I be thinking I'm 26 and my body be like no, you better multiply that.
Speaker 1:Multiply the numbers, your body be waving the white flag. Hey, hey, slow down, I'm catching up right now like stop swinging that flag too hard. You know our back might go out hey, angle it a little bit, don't put so much on the shoulder, turn it all over use them hips.
Speaker 1:We need some exercise you get to a certain age, you be like you know what this shit ain't for me. I was on the treadmill this morning. I was like usually I do about 45 minutes. I was looking at that shit and she said, oh, you got 20 minutes left. I was like emergency stop. I think today is not my day. Today I can do 45. I can do this thing. I said today was like an emergency stop. I said I'm gonna go upstairs and lift. I got upstairs, everything was clear. I said I'm going to go upstairs and lift. I got upstairs, everything was clear. I said this is too good to be true. I'm going to go sit my ass up in the sun and read the newspaper and shower. We're going to call it a day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it'd be like that. I was supposed to do 100 kettlebells, I was like 20. We're done. I mean we're done. I don't know what's up my hips, my back, my knee.
Speaker 1:God, sometimes I go to the gym just to get a playlist.
Speaker 2:That's what it is. Yeah, but ooh, that song sounds good. Hold on, Shazam.
Speaker 1:Yes, I got my new music. How is?
Speaker 2:it. Hold on. I got Shazam, hold on. You be like this Look for the app. Wait, okay, wait Wrong app, hold on, okay. Oh, I got the last of that song. I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1:You be up. I be up at the gym just like this with Shazam.
Speaker 2:Hey, please don't listen to people over here.
Speaker 1:Speak over here.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, let me go to the bathroom real quick. It's quiet. I can hear the Speak over here. Okay, all right, let me go to the bathroom real quick. It's quiet.
Speaker 1:I can hear the music. I want to be a YN so bad. But I got to have blood pressure. I'm not trying to raise up.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Man, but I do appreciate the interview and I definitely appreciate the time. I don't know if I was being worrisome in the text messages and the DMs. I just had to confirm everything on one of them people. But if anybody wants to, let me just say this. I got a lot of mail and be respectful if you decide to slide in her DMs, because I don't send no wiener shots no, no don't get disrespectful you want back?
Speaker 1:exactly, and she probably got like a bunch of them in the hidden gallery somewhere yes, I do so just calm the fuck down and if you do decide to shoot your shot, be prepared for what's about to come with it and be respectful when you shoot your shot. Take her out to dinner or something. Let her build up and don't go straight, like she said. Hey, so you're a dominatrix? I want to try this, but let's go ahead and go get this applebee's right quick. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Like that ain't gonna work, buddy, that ain't gonna work. Like, yeah, we can, can go Applebee's. I'll take the rest of us in your wallet and then we'll have a good time. Thanks.
Speaker 1:I went out with one domination. I was like, oh man, it's kind of expensive. She called her sub up and was like, yeah, I need $500. I was like, oh, the meals ain't gonna be nothing but like $65. She said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:That's how it is, yep.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Well, if they want to follow you or see any more of your content, how can they?
Speaker 2:Of course. So you can follow me on my Instagram the one that's working now. The other one is shut down. They don't like me anymore, but you can go to Goddess S-g-o-d-e-s-s uh, underscore kylie cash k-y-l-i-e-k-a-s-s-h, because, remember, I like all the money. That's why it's two s's. That's right. Yeah, exactly, but if you want like I, but if you want like I say if you want to be consulting or anything, because I do have other stuff that I have going on. As far as like consulting firm, when it comes to finding a new business or something like that, you can always catch me there, or you can catch me on my other page. It is Cash K-A-S-S-H. We page, it is cash k-a-s-s-h. Wealth w-e-a-l-t-h firm f-i-r-m.
Speaker 1:And that's on instagram and a dot com definitely, and you know you guys can follow me comedian rome, all social media platforms, comedian rome davis on youtube and no id podcast. You can google no id podcast. We on every streaming platform out there that I can think of, even on the african ones. I don't know how I got there. Somebody told me I had an uncle that has the left me three million dollars and I was like, oh, sign me up. So I'm just kidding, but uh, we signing out. I really do appreciate the interview and, like I said, I gotta bring you in for part two because we got other stuff that we got to talk about. So, yeah, this is your season.
Speaker 2:Awesome, I'm so grateful. Thank you for having me and I can't wait to the next one and I can't wait to talk to everyone out there and just DM me, just DM me, I'm easy to talk to.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and.
