No I.D.
No I.D. was created as a different outlet to give flowers to the guests as well has give out jewels to the listeners. No I.D. is a thought provoking and in-depth podcast that offers multiple perspectives. on subjects ranging from sex to controversial topics to race to lifestyle covering all cultural conversations and building a platform to educate but encourage viewers to engage. No I.D. is candid unscripted with the Host/Creator/Comedian Jerome Davis.
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Music & Microphone Moments w/ Cara Caterson
When singer-songwriter Cara Caterson joins Rome Davis on the No ID Podcast, what unfolds is an unexpectedly vulnerable peek behind the curtain of creative careers. Both performers strip away the glamor to reveal what audiences never see—Rome confessing to throwing up at gas stations before comedy sets, Cara admitting to hiding in venue bathrooms to calm her nerves. Their shared experiences create an immediate bond that allows the conversation to venture into rarely discussed territory.
"I was wondering where the hell you went," Rome tells Cara, celebrating her recent single release "Big Joke" after watching her develop from open mic nights to professional recordings. Their discussion traces Cara's musical journey from church singing as a child to finding escape through music during a challenging upbringing, drawing inspiration from artists like Music Soulchild and Erykah Badu.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn as they explore how today's entertainment landscape forces artists to compress their vision into ever-smaller packages. "Everything has to be a Reel or a Short now," Cara laments, noting how the industry's demand for 30-second content fragments makes it nearly impossible to present complete artistic expressions. Both agree that album lengths have shrunk from an hour to barely 30 minutes, reflecting our collective shrinking attention capacity.
As they discuss moving between music scenes—Cara relocating from Virginia Beach to Baltimore—they touch on the delicate balance between competition and community. "There's a lot of betas trying to be alphas," Rome observes about industry climbers who don't understand collaboration's value. Cara offers aspiring musicians practical wisdom earned through experience: read extensively about the industry, prepare thoroughly behind the scenes, and only launch when truly ready.
Ready to discover an artist on the rise? Follow Cara Caterson across social platforms and stream "Big Joke" wherever you get your music. If you enjoyed this conversation about the real challenges creative people face, subscribe to the No ID Podcast for more unfiltered discussions about making art in today's complex landscape.
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the no id podcast. Is I your host? I mean rome davis and I have here a talented young lady. I've known her for a while. We came up in the trenches together thursdays at nine o'clock at the performance playground iron sharpens iron. She has a single out right now, called big joke, and I'm so proud of the moves that this lady has made. Um a matter of fact, I'm not even gonna say her name. She's gonna introduce herself.
Speaker 2:We're gonna get it jumping yeah, hell yeah, um wait, no, that's what's a curse, I'm sorry you can cuss okay, okay, uh, my name is carl carison and uh, yeah, I'm a singer, songwriter.
Speaker 2:I remember watching you go up and doing your stand-up and just being like, oh my gosh, like so amazed by it and I was crazy to be sitting here. I remember when you were like starting the podcast up, you'd be like, all right, everybody pull out your phones, go follow. Right now, right, this second, I just had so much respect for you and I still do, it's cool I have a lot of respect for you.
Speaker 1:I thought you was afraid of me or like I irritated you one day, because you know I used to joke on people all the time and they're just like, yeah, buddy, don't fuck with me.
Speaker 2:No, okay, I'm not going to lie. I remember the exact day that you're talking about Because, like we had never spoken to each other and you were coming from my throat and I was like damn, this is really funny. Like I can't be that mad about it because it's funny. But I was like I don't know, I was feeling some type of way about it. And then afterwards he talked to me.
Speaker 1:I was like okay, we're cool yeah, man, people that don't know I'm a comedian. If I joke on you, that means I rock with you, right, and if I want, if you want to joke about me, cool. But I saw you come up there with the guitar because you had like this vibe with you. I was like, okay, because you know, on thursdays you don't see many uh artists come with a guitar right and play like a acoustic guitar and they was tuning it up. You don't see many of that. You see a lot of us. It's not the shit on, nobody like doing covers or True.
Speaker 1:You know stuff like that, so you coming up there with an original song and your own vibe, it was something different I've never seen. I've seen it in person, like going to concerts and stuff, but I never seen the prep um coming up from that yeah, coming up, like coming up from it, like I've always seen, like the finished product. I've never seen it like the, the cake being starting to bake, the ingredients being made. How did you, yeah, get into all of, like playing instruments and the singing, and who were some of your inspirations?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, well, you know it's. It's funny that you mentioned the come up, because that was something that I was looking for when I first was starting this whole process, because I was like I don't know how to do this and now I'm documenting my journey because I wasn't able to find anybody that was documenting their journey. But yeah, to answer your question, I definitely I've always sang, like my grandma would take me to church, like back in the day, don't rock with the church anymore. But back when I was little, I was all about it and she was like, yeah, you'd be right up there just screaming at the top of your lungs, you know, singing your little heart out, and I've just never stopped your lungs. You know, singing your little heart out and I, I've just never stopped I.
Speaker 2:You know, growing up wasn't in the like best household. It was pretty toxic and um, I would. I remember just like hiding out in my room and trying to replicate the sounds as best as I could about the people that I loved, you know. So, like music, soul child was a huge one for me, or, yeah, or Alicia Keys, because of course you know, beyonce. Actually, now that I'm really thinking about it like a lot of soul, r&b style artists or neo-soul even like Erykah Badu were huge for me.
Speaker 2:And then I, on the like other side of it, like the songwriter part, I've always just loved music wholeheartedly and so I listened to all kinds of genres and didn't realize it, but I was picking apart those songs when I was listening to them. And so when it came time about 2019, I was in the military, didn't know what the hell I wanted to do with my life. I just kind of started throwing darts at them all. I was like I don't really know who I am, I don't know what I enjoy, let's see. And I met someone who was a musician for a long time and the rest kind of just developed from there.
Speaker 1:You said music soul child.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, with the Q, With the Q.
Speaker 1:I don't even know how old you are, but I'm just astonished because you gotta realize like he had a generational run.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, yeah, my stepmom, like whenever she would get real mad at my dad, he would be like you always put on that hate man, hated music, and like she had this whole playlist jasmine sullivan would go on. That's how I knew I was like, let me get in my bedroom, let me go hide, because I'm not trying to get my ass whooped or being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but like you know when, when he finally hit, I was like okay, we're, we're back to chill vibes again. Let me come out. She, she's loving him again. I'm cool now. I'm cool yeah, he.
Speaker 2:He had like a interview recently, I'm thinking on the 85 south show, when he was putting out albums under different aliases yes, oh my god, yes, I saw him live, actually with eric bennett, I know, and I was so excited because they like marketed it as a soul, you know concert between the two and er Eric Bennett opened it and I was like yes, oh my gosh, you sound great, it was amazing. And then Music Soulchild came on and said some some crazy ass shit that I was like whoa.
Speaker 2:I was not even expecting that, and he's like alright, now time for my rap album. I was like rap album, oh okay, I mean go off. I'm glad that you're going on your own direction that's crazy, man.
Speaker 1:Do you want to do like different aliases and start putting out a rap album, a rock album, uh, neo soul album, and so on and so on?
Speaker 2:no, I think really my goal right now is um, I have not seen any record labels that really really go after the artist vision. So my ultimate goal right now is to start that um for other artists and, rather than being like, this is the direction you should take, just letting them do art however they want to um, and encouraging them that, because it's like I'm not going to sign you if I don't see something there in the first place. Why would I stifle that? Because I I just feel like a lot of what we're seeing today is very regurgitated art and like all arts regurgitate, don't get me wrong but it's like over regurgitated to the point where it's like, oh, we found something that works and a bunch of businessmen were like now there's nothing really new coming in there's really no originality yeah, exactly so, like I don't know that necessarily under my own alias, but I would love to produce for other people in any genre that they would like, for sure yeah, you nervous yes it's nerve-wracking having all the.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know it's different talking to podcaster rome than his friend rome it's the same.
Speaker 1:No, it's not the same. On the stage, the podcast and outside of this is just like a whole different beast. Yeah, it's a whole different thing. It's weird. I'm like the music soul child of the microphone maybe, I don't know I mean, who doesn't?
Speaker 2:well, I used to not.
Speaker 1:Actually, the stage fright was bad so how did you overcome that stage fright?
Speaker 2:honestly going to the venue a bunch, yeah, literally. I don't know if you remember me sitting out there and like shaking so bad, yeah, yeah, no, that was it was literally. It was that it was going every thursday night to to just do it in front of people over and over again and just rip that band-aid off and eventually and even now, like before I go on, I still feel queasy and scared but I'm like this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1:So you know, you got to kind of figure it out you got like a pre-game ritual before you get on the stage, because I can tell you mine yeah, tell me yours, I'll tell you mine it was. It's three different. It was three different eras. The first era was stop, get gas, get the mixed fruit mentos with a tea on a palmer from there, throw up in the parking lot I feel that, oh my God, yes.
Speaker 1:The second arrow was I will wake up in the morning, brush my teeth, shower. My show could be at like 8 o'clock. I will shower three hours before the show. Come with my book bag and all my pads, stop at 7-eleven, get a water and some kind of like fruit, like a uh, like beef jerky or something. Yeah, this new era is I write the jokes out, I take it on an index card and I just leave out the door wow, that's like such a big jump, I feel like from going from throwing up in the parking lot that's 7-eleven used to hate seeing me pulling up like the cashier was like you must have a show today.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm so sorry, and it wasn't like in the trash can, it wasn't in the the bathroom, it was literally me at the pump, just.
Speaker 2:And then I'm like somebody go get the cat litter rome's walking in here comes rome.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah, all right, and I was doing that for a minute and then I'm going to stage like oh, I'm good, you know me like nothing ever happened and you know that you just committed sins in a 7-eleven well, I feel so bad, I feel so relieved.
Speaker 2:Wait, okay, so was there a third phase. There's a third phase, right.
Speaker 1:The third phase is just the index cards.
Speaker 2:Okay, the third phase was the index cards.
Speaker 1:Index cards and get a bottle of water from the house and I don't even drink the damn water. Damn but it's like the comfort of having it but like the only thing that that doesn't stop right now, like even in all three phases, is if I have to go for like a long drive, I at least have to pee four or five times on the road that's also very real.
Speaker 2:It's like your body goes into the state of like, get it all out. Get it all out, get it all out. Yeah, go ahead. Show yours.
Speaker 1:I know you don't throw up in the parking lot, but no, I'm classier than that.
Speaker 2:I find a toilet. No, I, I don't know, I um, I definitely. Right now I feel like I'm still. I guess I'm at phase two, because phase one was like I would actually go to the bathroom of the venue, because that was really the only place I performed because I knew.
Speaker 2:No, here's the thing. I knew that, like, the rules that they set out at the beginning for anyone who doesn't know is that you have to clap. So, like you know, going up there you're gonna have applause, and that just made me feel more comfortable going up. So the venue was the only place that I was trying to go. So I would go into the bathroom. Every time I would pee, pee, pee and then vomit on the last one, like four different visits, and I'd be like okay, and then vomit on the last one, like four different visits, and I'd be like okay, and then I would go up, like the reason I always got tea is because I needed something warm for my vocal cords after throwing up in the bathroom. So when you were like, oh yeah, I vomited in the cell, I was like, oh, that's so real.
Speaker 1:I was always wondering why James kept lighting the incense after you came out the bathroom.
Speaker 2:He's like this girl needs to be cleansed, let's put some energy out there. Oh man, yeah, and then I go. I think I was really doing a lot of the Thursday night, you know, night playground things with Coop and learning more. I realized that something that helped me get my nerves out was dancing. So that's the phase two that I'm in now is having predetermined things I'm going to do when I get on stage so I don't get out there and freeze, at least initially, to dance and get my body moving and get that anxiety out, and then after that I'm kind of in this like pieces of my brain there's me and then there's cara, you know and then, like you like get off the stage.
Speaker 1:You're like fucking they'd be like you rock that shit, yeah, yeah. Have you ever been like so hard on yourself where everybody's like no, you did good, but in your mind like yo, I could have did a lot better than what?
Speaker 2:I mean, even we had when we released big joke, we did a big joke release party and even that I had it recorded everything. I was watching it back and after the performance everyone was like, wow, you did so great all this stuff and I was like man, like I'm so excited to see this footage, it's gonna be great. And then the whole time I'm watching I'm just sitting there cringing like oh, oh, you really chose to do that. Huh, like that's crazy. Do you have anything like that when you're giving jokes? I mean, I know with comedians sometimes the joke doesn't land, depending on the crowd too, so I'm sure that can mean they're racking, trying stuff out.
Speaker 1:It's been a few, it's been a few it's been. It's like it's as good as somebody thinks I am. I'm like no, that shit was ass. Like I did a show. I went to connecticut and was at the mohegan sun yeah right comics roll house, last comic, standing man, you're so funny, man, you're so funny, man, you're so funny.
Speaker 2:Even I knew that shit was ass.
Speaker 1:Damn. Got the video. I'm like I ain't about to post this up. I showed my pops. He was like out of 10, I gave you about a six.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Right, well, we keep honest people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was like it's a six.
Speaker 1:James was like I said, James, I don't think I did good. I mean, I was contemplating quitting comedy at that point and James was like yeah, you didn't do that, well, you could work on your transitions Boy. I was so glad I don't know what it was I was so glad that my pops and James just kept it real to me, Because I felt like all these fucking comedians was coming.
Speaker 2:Man, you were fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1:I'm like shut, the fuck up.
Speaker 2:It makes you go through your head of like okay, so then the performances I think I did kill. Did I actually kill them or did I not? Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 1:I feel that Received.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, my god, I remember G. He used to say that all the time He'd be like oh, heard, received. He got me saying that I'm gonna bring that back, let's bring that back received.
Speaker 1:Be back, my cheer man I. I thought I mean like when I listened to big joke, I was like it was on replay. I called you, I was at the gym. I was like I gotta listen to this because I saw you at poster. That's, I gotta check it out. And I was wondering where the hell you went at what is like oh she, she didn't move, though to baltimore. She recording demos and shit. And I was wondering where the hell you went at. But it was like, oh she, she didn't move, though, to baltimore, she recording demos and shit and I was like wow I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1:I'm so proud of you. I was like you don't understand like I was so proud I'm still out proud. I'm like it takes a lot of cojones and fortitude to do what you do. To get on the stage is is the hard part. Well, that's the easy part. To move, get on the stage is the is the harder part. So how, how has it been since you moved from Virginia, we in Baltimore now, right? Yeah, yeah how's that been?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean there's definitely, you know, I feel like with everything in life, the good and the bad, for sure I would say the good is that the music community here is, I would say, like maybe a little bit more competitive than Virginia, virginia Beach was, but there's so much just raw talent sitting there waiting to be looked at. It's crazy to me that Baltimore, musically, is not up there with, you know, nashville or LA or New York, because the amount of artists that are here is incredible. So that's really cool. I feel like the community is bigger, even if it's a little bit more competitive and not necessarily as supportive as I would say for Jimmy Beach's. So that was definitely an adjustment period because I was like okay, cool, we're all here for each other and everything and that's not necessarily the case. So that's been interesting learning the ins and outs.
Speaker 2:Also, there's a lot of drama, like everyone's in's in like six bands, and you're like, how are you in six bands? Like how do you even have time for that? Because when I also, like when I moved from Virginia Beach to Maryland, I upped my game of, like you know, social media and then you know, like you said, recording songs and trying to get on bigger stages other than just like open mic nights, etc, etc. And trying to get on bigger stages other than just like open mic nights, etc, etc. And there's a lot of back-end stuff that you have to do that I did not know existed in music. I thought, you know, you just put on a pretty dress and you're like you're done. So I don't know. I would say overall I like baltimore better though yeah, I feel you received.
Speaker 1:I think, like in this entertainment industry, there's a lot of betas trying to be alphas. That's crazy, I think everybody wants to be a big shark in a small pond and they don't even know how to swim. Like it's a, it's a process, right, and it's not like an overnight thing. And then, like you get ones that haven't been doing it as long as you but they see, like the poise and the reactions that you get on the stage, they want to attach themselves to you. Yeah, you like no this.
Speaker 1:Like they don't see the grind of me throwing up four times in the bathroom, me overdrafting my account to get to the next gig yes, that's real, that's real me pulling up to a place that serves like it's like I'm doing well in front of eight people but I'm a bomber from the 80 people, or vice versa, I'm killing in front of 100 people, but I can go do the same song, same set, in front of 10 people, yeah, and they not receiving it at all. So like they don't I. That's what I honestly feel. I think is especially for the last two years. I feel like everybody's wants to be a beta is a beta but wants to be an alpha, so fucking bad, like nobody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's very fair. It's kind of you know, it's funny, like I know people hate on her a lot, but um, when kim kardashian came out I was like no one wants to work these days and everyone was like oh, like there's a lot of people that work hard and stuff.
Speaker 2:I was like, honestly, I can really see where she's coming from on that, though, because if you are about it, if you're about that dream, about that vision, whatever it is, there is no work-life balance. Like that's a lie that people tell you and I'm not saying that no one is out here grinding. I think, like what she said maybe was a little bit over exaggerated, but, that being said, like this lie that we feed ourselves about like oh, you can have all these equal parts of life and still accomplish a goal that is like way up here is just not true. It's just not true. Like what you said about overdrafting the account, like I can't tell you, the last time I had like a solid eight hours of sleep, you know where it's not like taking a nap in between, like right now I, and the amount of skills you have to learn too.
Speaker 2:Don't start on that. It's not just music, it's business, it's marketing. It's social media management, which is different than marketing. It's knowing all the statistics and the metrics. It's you know, I'm I'm making my own merch too. So it's been learning how to make t-shirts and, like, I listen, I'm a construction man too now because I'm renting out my rehearsal space and like painting the walls and, like you know, spackling it and whatever.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, like no one talks about that, but it is not that simple to just yeah, like you said, stage is the easy part, that's the fun part, that's the part that keeps you going yeah that's the fun part, then going behind the scenes and and trying to learn algorithm and posting and seeing what's gonna gain attention, and then, like you're watching me personally, I was watching like an interview with the one of the founders of instagrams. Like hashtags don't matter, I'm like what I've been told hashtags was the main thing to get you out there yes, that you should be hashtagging the crap out of your thing.
Speaker 1:Well, at first it was put as many as you can, then it was limited three to five, then it's none and you're like okay, I feel like at this point you guys are just making shit up yeah, and then it's like now you gotta like everything has to be a real and youtube everything has to be a short, because we don't have the attention span anymore to sit through a three minute song anymore. We need a song that's a minute and a half like I downloaded an album I'm not gonna say the artist's name and I remember back then when I was growing up, an album was like an hour yeah now it's like 30 minutes yeah, give or take some.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. Yeah, even when I'm making songs like I have one song that I'm going to be releasing in april that is about six minutes, and I was like I don't know, I don't know how this is gonna hit because of the attention span thing, and that's hard, because it's like you have art that you're trying to show a certain way. Like, whenever I'm making a set list, I try to, you know, have like a little bump at the beginning of like a hype song and then something a little lower, and then you kind of just build it up, but if you're only seeing a 30 second part of that, it's it. I, in my opinion, doesn't hit the same, don't have the same.
Speaker 2:It's like telling the back end of a joke without having to set up like how do you even do that, you know, without just doing like a bunch of one-liners it's like going on wikipedia and reading about the movie, instead of just sitting there and watching the full.
Speaker 2:Yes, and experiencing it yourself, and then adding on the Wikipedia on top of it, like you're, like I don't know. I also get it, though, cause I grew up in a time frame where, like, my attention span is really short, so when I'm looking at other people's content, I'm like, oh, whatever, just like scroll through, scroll through, scrolling through. So I'm definitely a hypocrite in saying that, but it is, like from an artist's perspective, really frustrating.
Speaker 1:It is. It's probably a little bit more frustrating now too, because everything is so geared towards social media now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true yeah, and very politically charged too, like this. The state of the world is fucking crazy right now, like I don't even know how we I know how we got here, but like I don't, it's crazy, it's just, you know, you, you defund the education system enough and it just seems to kind of trickle down and it's like we're just seeing that cycle, but not political okay, okay but it's like it's on top of that you know you have that and then on top of that being swamped into social media, you're trying to navigate your way through that.
Speaker 2:Like, one of my biggest things for my platform is trying to bridge that gap between people so we can actually like talk and have healthier conversations about what is going on and, you know, build more of a community, because I do feel like we're really divided right now divided.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of stuff is propaganda to justify, and I'll be like this is crazy and I mean I, we, I saw the the right, we saw A lot of us saw the writings on the wall, what was going to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For sure. Now I'm going to ask you this. I'm going to see if you can catch the following You're a musician, you're an artist, you're a singer, you're in the music industry. Million dollar question. How do you feel about the whole Kendrick and Drake beef?
Speaker 2:You want my honest answer go ahead I think a lot of the beef is staged. Personally I do. I think a lot of it's staged. I think too like, if what they're saying about drake is true and I'm not like a part of the law or whatever I'm not gonna sit here and like say he did or didn't, because I don't know his life, I have my opinions on it, but that's not for me to judge.
Speaker 2:I feel like whenever beef gets blown out of proportion like that, and it's just everywhere and they're making songs back and forth, I really think it's just a publicity stunt. So it's hard for me to get into it, because I'm like I don't know, I'm just like you know what? Because I know when I'm mad at someone, I go talk to them about it and be like or I cut them off, it's one or the other. If I'm trying to continue the relationship with you, then I'll talk to you about it, but if I'm not, then, like you know, if those allegations are true, they'll definitely be telling that I'll be like okay, I'm gonna investigate yeah, let me let me you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me call the proper authorities and let me not be attached to you anymore, because obviously your energy is not where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 1:That's my honest opinion they've been cussing each other out for like 15 years I'm saying subliminally like. It's been subliminals like and the crazy thing about it is when the everything happened last summer, it seemed like all right, can't you drop the song? Drake, drop the song. Can't you drop the song? Drake drops on. These songs were not like. We were talking about early 30 seconds a minute and a half. These motherfuckers was like six minutes long about what.
Speaker 2:They're angry about what?
Speaker 1:they're angry about, then they name dropping each other, then they go in their families. Yeah, it was like all right and don't get me wrong, like it was, it was, it was great entertainment. You know I'm saying it was great entertainment, but I was what I'm saying it was great entertainment, but I was like now what the beef is over with.
Speaker 2:And now what? Because that's what you built your platform on is having this beef. So what do you like? Start new beef, like. And also, this is like not here on my soapbox, Let me just tiptoe on it for a second, Okay, but like what are you teaching the younger generation beneath us to or not beneath us? That's a wild thing to say. But what are you teaching the generation that's coming up right?
Speaker 1:now.
Speaker 2:Like that it's okay to you know shit, talk each other and put each other down and stuff. Like there's already so much of that, why I don't understand the purpose of putting more hate into the world. Like like you know the shit, the allegations that are there, then yes, they should be held accountable for that. But like also, on the other end of that, that doesn't mean you have to sit here and like spew hate and stuff like I don't know. I know hate gets a lot of views, but it's just not really. Not really what I'm rocking with, I guess I think lies gets also.
Speaker 1:I think lies get spread further than the truth does. Yeah, like they can't get lamar beef was the guy music industry? And god damn, that cat williams interview fucked up every comedian. And I'm like people ask all the time like I'm pretty sure you guys get it like do y'all really have these beefs and and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:and I'll be like yeah, but, the dumbest thing I've I've ever heard is like another comedian beef another comedian. I'm like bro, you're not kate williams, this isn't the kings of comedy, we're not on club shea shea, you're not kindred, it's nissen drake. Like we're trying to get to their level. These are fucking millionaires beefing with each other and we're literally sitting at a brewery about to do five minute sets.
Speaker 2:So shut the fuck up not the sitting at the brewery, no, literally, though. Yeah. And also like, imagine how much farther you would get just like working together in the first place. You know not that you're gonna vibe with everyone, but I don't know. I just hate seeing communities, especially because you know that's what really that an artist is building yes, a following and everything, but you're also building a bridge between people would be like I like this artist, you like this artist, and that's already a bond there. So, like whatever, however you're holding yourself, whatever standard, that is whatever you're talking about. I always try to keep that in mind of like, what am I giving people to talk about? Is it to spread more hate and like that kind of shit, or is it to talk about something bigger than that, something more important?
Speaker 1:people act like it's only one microphone, one studio, one stage and I gotta be the only one that's gonna touch it and I'm like, yes, you sound fucking stupid. And then when you shut the ones out that's actually doing work, they go move up to somewhere else. You like you just gotta spew the hate. It's so, it's so dumb. But I don't need to get on my soapbox at all because that would be like if somebody was interviewing me. I like I can go in on for hours on some of the shit that I've seen and things like that, but see, that's what we should do.
Speaker 2:We should do another one of these, but reverse it and I'll interview you. Let me look at my list of questions. How do you feel about the kendrick lamar and drake b?
Speaker 1:I loved it. I loved it. I've I've been a big like kendrick lamar fan since I heard rigor mortis, so this we're going. He's a great artist and I'm 36, so like, listen to party music and a lot of trap or like I get, I can't do it. Yeah, I only listen to that.
Speaker 1:Going to the work, going to the gym, drake is a solid, solid entertainer yeah but as far as artistry goes, kendrick hands down, like even that super bowl performance, the grammy performances, his music videos. You have to study those and and get those and where they're going. And I think Kendra was like, damn, I've been doing this just as long as Drake and they're giving Drake all these flowers. It's time for me to come get mine. And they've been like I said, they've been cussing each other out for like 10, 15 years and I thought it was hilarious because I went on the Twitter thread one day I went down a rabbit hole of, well, he was cussing drake out on all the stars and then he cussed him out on the beyonce song and drake talked about his wife on this song and I'm like, but we just did poetic. We did poetic, justice and fucking problems in 20, 2009. But off that. Are you still nervous? Are you just rubbing your ankle? Okay?
Speaker 2:I, yes, I'm just laying with my like leg, I don't even know how to describe it did you get a new sleeve since I saw you? I well, I finished it. Yeah, I don't know if you can like really see it not really, but it's dope from what I see.
Speaker 1:Is that black Panther?
Speaker 2:I wish it is a Black Panther, but it's not the Black Panther. I don't know if I can do that.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I'm allowed, don't get canceled.
Speaker 2:I'll be in support.
Speaker 1:Solidarity, brother Solidarity.
Speaker 1:Being an ally to the LGBTQ community, like, yeah, oh, I'm a part of that. But you know, before we get off, yeah, one, I appreciate your patience and everything. I know you were so excited when you was messaging me yesterday. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I was having dinner with my family, like my extended family and sometimes they. It just takes a lot out of me sometimes to be a social butterfly, so he was like messaging me. He's like yeah, I thought I said three or something. Say two, say two, get it early because I'm old. I'm gonna take a nap after this all right okay you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But what advice would you give to anyone that's trying to trying to get into the industry that's writing songs and playing instruments like what? What advice would you give them?
Speaker 2:oh, a hundred percent if I could go back in time and retry. You know, not that I've made it super successful or anything yet, but I would definitely read as much as you can about the music industry. There's one book in particular that of course I am forgetting, but it's like the book. If you look it up it'll be like the number one thing. It's like on its 17th edition it's called like, literally referred to, as the music bible, like it goes through everything. I read that front to back. It says on the book not to do that necessarily, but like to do it as you need it. Read it front to back because I did it as the book instructed me to and I honestly felt like there was a lot of things I missed on the back end.
Speaker 2:So read, read, read, read and get your ducks in a row, like the reason I was quiet for a long time and doing all this was because I was learning how to dance. I was learning how to, you know, get past my stage fright. I was getting my LLC together, I was getting my merch together, all the stuff, and that way when I came out, you know, with my first song, it was boom and you know from the jump because so many people have been waiting so long. I've been making friends along the way and connections. Now I have connections like you, for example, for podcasts interview, which I really appreciate, um, but also you know other bands that I'm friends with to put set lists together Network, prepare, be in the gym, be in the zone. I know it fucking sucks because you can't be on stage doing the best part of this, but it is worth it at the end because then you can just run. So, yeah, prepare as much as you can and only launch when it's the last thing on the checklist.
Speaker 1:And where can they follow? What can they find? You follow, you subscribe and like. Well, like, and and what's the name of the song?
Speaker 2:again, big joke, big joke by cara caterson. It's on all streaming platforms, so you can find it anywhere. And then, as far as following me instagram, I did recently start facebook um tiktok, blue sky. It's all cara caterson, c-a-r-a, c-a-t-e-r-s-o-n. And if you're looking on instagram and tiktok, the handle has a period in between cara and caterson. So, cara period, caterson. Yeah, that's me, february 22nd.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna show you how diverse my uh playlist is. So you see her song and then you see, say that Shit by Black Boy JB, it's just right beside it. So obviously I'm proud because I never met anybody that's been on Apple Music that can bust up.
Speaker 2:You're like, I know this person. I have 52 monthly listeners right now for my first song Right For Spotify, spotify it's pretty good, I think you know.
Speaker 1:I always say like, if you get one follower or subscriber, I feel like you touch one soul yes, 52 people, that's a lot, that's a lot it's like you're doing it I'm I'm trying, so are you out here?
Speaker 2:I need to come down for another comedy show. That's what I need to do, which is when uh, I got a couple lined up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but I'm actually going up there to baltimore we're going back to baltimore dc to do more work out there because, uh, the market here for comedy is fucking ass yeah, well, if you come up here like and we're hosting our own event, I'd love to have you as a host or an mc you can do like a comedy set in between for sure, just let people know if I joke on them I love it like now. You're the big joke.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I had to it's all right, I still love you. It's all right, we still love you girl with a dream.
Speaker 2:I'm just a bitch. Oh my god you're. You're. People watching this podcast are gonna be like what kind of this girl talks too much. No, we don't even know what the hell is going on. I'm gonna be like you know what? Neither do I, but it's a good time they're gonna.
Speaker 1:you know what they're gonna look at. They can be like wow, he just interviewed a dominatrix sex worker and now he has a musician everywhere. What the hell, where the fuck are we going with this? I was like you want to go get interviewed after a lady named Pepper the Black Cat, mm-hmm, bullshit. Okay, that's why you got your thighs out. I understand, you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean I had to keep up. I had to keep up. I'm not even lying. I didn't realize got your thighs out. I understand, you know what I mean. I had to keep up. I had to keep up. I'm not even lying. I didn't realize it was this out All right, but I did. I wore my pink and my. You know, I don't know. It's like the juxtaposition of it all.
Speaker 1:We still love you. I love you. I love you. If you guys want to follow me, me is comedian rome uh, all social media platforms and no id podcast for the podcast on instagram, as well as at comedian rome davis on youtube. What I'm going to do, I'm going to put the link, uh, in the bio of this, the video and everything, and make sure you support. Big joke, cara caterson did I get that cara caterson cara caterson, I keep. I got a cousin named tara, but we say tara instead of.
Speaker 2:But it's still you say that to me every time. Every time you're like oh, it's because I have a cousin.
Speaker 1:I'm like I know I know it and I'm like yo, she's t-a-r-a, you're c-a-r-a. We say tara, yeah, it's so crazy, but now make sure you support. Support like, share, comment, subscribe. Go to her social media, cara katterson, and support katterson. God damn it, car, whatever, I just know her as my best friend and the girl I will pick on on Thursdays for $5 a month. With all the what.
Speaker 2:The beanies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the beanies, the Vans. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, yeah, that's a big step up from the Avril Lavigne. Look that she was going. She's a skater girl.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what I am.
Speaker 1:now You're you, I think you're coming into you. I think that's like. I think when you first start off, you start off as like a certain way of like being comfortable, and then you get comfortable being uncomfortable. So you look changed up, like now I wear more button ups and cardigans and I don't know if you saw, now I got a bow tie incorporated into my I did notice that, yeah, you're elevating every time. I'm trying to get like you, big dog.
Speaker 2:It was really the bow tie. You know, when you're out there I was like you know he's missing something. The bow tie, the bow tie.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh yeah, I pulled out a bow tie and performed one time. I was like who the fuck is this? I was perform one time. I was like who the fuck is this? Oh man, but I appreciate everything and, um, I wish you nothing but the best of success.
Speaker 2:You got my number. You already know what to do. Same, yeah, let me know when you're up here.
Speaker 1:I'd love to see you perform oh, let me know when you're back down here, so I can that part? I will most definitely sign off. Thank you so much.
