No I.D.
No I.D. was created as a different outlet to give flowers to the guests as well has give out jewels to the listeners. No I.D. is a thought provoking and in-depth podcast that offers multiple perspectives. on subjects ranging from sex to controversial topics to race to lifestyle covering all cultural conversations and building a platform to educate but encourage viewers to engage. No I.D. is candid unscripted with the Host/Creator/Comedian Jerome Davis.
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Inside the World of Comedy with the Theodore Taylor
What if a simple wardrobe choice could change the way you're perceived on stage? Theodore Taylor, better known as the "Bowtie Guy," joins us to unravel the origins of his distinctive comedic persona. Inspired by a character from Doctor Who, the bow tie has become more than just an accessory—it's his comedic badge, helping him craft punchlines that linger long after the laughter fades. Theodore takes us on his journey from the Houston Improv, sharing how he navigates the expectations and stereotypes often placed on black comedians, and why adaptability is the secret sauce in today's comedy scene.
Peek behind the curtain of stand-up comedy's unpredictable world as Theodore recounts his early career's comedic highs and lows. From a Michael Jackson joke that fell flat to a humorous saga involving a clean comedy show punchline mishap, Theodore's stories highlight the industry's camaraderie and the lessons learned from diverse audiences. We also explore the challenges and tensions within the comedy circuits, particularly for black comedians, and reflect on how societal dynamics shape a comedian's life both on and off stage.
Theodore opens up about the essential ingredients for success in comedy: likability, consistency, and relatability. Through candid discussions, we examine how personal heroes can disappoint and how comedians balance their intellectual and misfit personas. Theodore also spotlights his special, "Theodore ME Taylor's Bowtie Guy," inviting listeners to follow his journey and connect with our comedy community. Whether you're a comedy aficionado or curious about the craft's inner workings, this episode promises insights and laughs in equal measure.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the no ID Podcast. I got here. This man has a special out. It's available everywhere except for Tubi, so I'm just kidding the Bulldog guy, comedian, host, producer, creative, I would say up and coming, but he's already coming. Pause, uh, the one and only theodore taylor. How you doing today?
Speaker 2:I'm doing y'all how you doing everybody out there man, we're doing good brother so let's go ahead and get into it.
Speaker 1:Okay, both, bowtie guy, your comedy special. How did you come up with the name and what is a?
Speaker 2:bowtie guy. I mean, I was doing comedy for years and I'm a nerd as well, so I don't know if you heard of this show called Doctor who, mm-hmm. Yeah, there's a gentleman under the name Sam Smith. He was one of the doctors and he said bowties are cool. I one day was like no, they are. And I decided to wear it at a show at the comic club I was working at at the time. I used to work in Houston Improv, where basically all the comics went and they would put me on or whatever. And I decided to go off that weekend with a bow tie and people started liking it and I just started doing it. It means absolutely nothing. It just means you're just going to see a dude in a bow tie doing it. It means absolutely nothing. It just means you're just going to see a dude in a bow tie. When you watch it, you're going to be like is this motherfucker going to do bow tie jumps? No, I'm not.
Speaker 1:I just got a bow tie on.
Speaker 2:She got a bow tie on. The whole special is hilarious. Ain't got shit to do with bow tie, but hey, it's's like.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:One of the things that I do is a niche that I have. It allows me to like when I was coming up man. I've been doing this since I was 18. I'm 42 years old. When you're going up as a black comedian, they sort of label you as blue, they label you as a blue collar, they label you as a dirty collar. It don't matter. I mean it don't matter because you're old and whatever. They still call you dirty.
Speaker 2:I did this show in spring Texas one time and what they did before me was being racist and what they did after me was saying dirty jokes. I was just doing regular male jokes, regular male cousin, you know. And she, this white lady, said you know, I like it, but I don't like the vulgarity. I was like, oh my vulgarity, just mine, okay, yeah. And she just stayed on there and kept on going. I don't like the vulgarity. And I was like are you talking about the black vulgarity dog already? What the fuck are you talking about? Like what is going on. So it also allows me to say dirty jokes and dress well while I'm on stage. So you don't really actually see it coming. It's all just some psychological hit that allows you to put a button up on people and allow you to say whatever the hell you want to say, and I don't have to wear a three-ste Steve Harvey suit.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we ain't wearing no Steve Harvey suit. Well, shout out to Steve.
Speaker 2:That's a little bit of a dress, but you know, that's just not for me.
Speaker 1:You know, I can relate somewhat, because when I first started stand-up I was doing like the Nike joggers with the graphic t-shirts from Target, and then something clicked. I was like man, let me go ahead and just switch up a little bit and start doing the button-ups, the jeans and the cardigans, and I was like everything just flowed a little bit better.
Speaker 2:For some reason they allow you to say whatever the hell you want to and don't think that you're vulgar. And you're not even being vulgar. You talk to a nightclub setting as a nightclub theme. I understand why your brain won't switch. You're a grown-up with selling alcohol and also the time where I came up there I came up wasn't as free as the words they are now. Everybody always talks about this like is comedy being too sensual? Is it so sensual? No, not really. Like you can say a lot more shit that you can say that you couldn't do back then. A lot more than you can do. You've got to be a lot more clever with it, a lot more than you. You just got to be a lot more clever with it. So like I just like. It was really hard because I also, at the time when I was coming out, there was a blue-collar comedy shit was going on. So you had a bunch of like. You had to like because I grew up in the South.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm from the South and I'm like I started out. I started my stock comedy in Houston, texas. You know it was toward the Midwest and stuff like that. And then you sit there, you do that stuff and people always, for some reason, they want I don't know why you left your job, you left the regular world to come into the nightclub world. Just switch your brain. You know it allows you to switch your brain a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Facts yeah, you gotta be clever, because I know the open mic scene. Well, I'm in virginia, the open mic scene. Here you just hear some people just say some of the most derogatory shit. I'm like yo be a little bit more clever and punch it up a little bit to the point that you don't understand.
Speaker 2:Yeah I mean you just it's all rising. You just can't go out there just calling people the f? Slur. You know. You know what I'm saying. Like I'm not going to do it. You know what I'm saying. You can't go out there and be called the F-slar. You know what I'm saying. Be smarter, like what era do we live in? On top of that, like it's being professional as well. You got to know when I'm going up there and this is the type of audience I have, so I need to know how to freaking cater. I always say that's when it becomes work. It's just when you can, when you do whatever you want. But if somebody's paying you to do a certain thing, it becomes work at that time. But it is, it's a job, it's a career, you know. You know what it is. It's a job, it's a career, you know.
Speaker 1:You know Definitely man and you started 18, so you're like 24 years in the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, yeah, and I just got my special. So you know, it worked. It worked, Does it come true? Nah, yeah, man, I started 18 years old. I was in theater. I was in high school. I started at 18 years old. I was in theater, I was in high school. I mean, I basically switched being from the theater to go to doing stand-up. I mean, like I was in college. I mean I was part of a company and I just called the mom. I was like, let me see how this works, let's see how this works.
Speaker 2:And you know, like being an actor sitting in the door, I'm like the immediate laughter. I just kept on looking at the stuff that I did, Like I would look at my like all the plays that I've done, you know. And then you just go well, I mean that's good, but nobody knows I'm done. There's no way to like capture this. There's no way to be like capture this. There's no way to be like to make this your own. You know there's a million million guys that are just as talented as me. You know, just as you know, I guess you know just as good as me. There's not many people as funny as me or funny like me, you know, so like it was an easier route to go that I could do it. You know, so, like it was an easier route to go that I could do it. You know, and that's another thing you gotta, you gotta know if you can do it. You know what I'm saying. It's like it's kind of who's gonna go out there and they do the shit and it's like, oh, this is fun, oh, this is fun. Well, my dude, and they do this shit and it's like, oh, this is fun, oh, this is fun. But, my dude, it's been years and you're not going nowhere. Bro, you sold open mic scene, you're not. You know what I'm saying you, I mean like Chris Rock saying you know you say something and, uh, nobody laughs. That's a sentence, it's not a joke. So, like you gotta, I mean be real with yourself. I call this the honest element. Man, it's In any part of, like, the entertainment genre.
Speaker 2:If you're an actor, you're a dancer, you know. Like you're a musician, Like it used to be, you can, you can sing. If you can sing, you can sing. You know, now they have like you know you can tweet. You have to tweak it. Now they have a. You know what's the teeth ain't stuff they didn't use and you know you can tweak. You have to tweak it. Now they have the. You know the what's the T-Pain stuff they be using. You know what I'm saying Voice modulators and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:If you're an actor, you surround people. I noticed this when I was doing a deal. It was a bunch of actors that were on the main stage of my college and they weren't good. But in that era, in that like environment, In that era, in that environment, they learn the popularity contest the same way that you can do it in Hollywood. You have something that they want and they start pushing you. You don't have to be good at it, Just people around you say you're good.
Speaker 2:Same thing with music. Same thing with that. It's something about. It's like dancing and comedy. Either you can dance or you can't. I can see what you're doing right now. You're not getting the steps right. You know what I'm saying. Same thing with comedy. I can see what you're doing right now. You're not making them laugh. The hottest element is the laughing. If they're not laughing, it's not good. And if you can probably weigh a niche in any way in this business, if you make them laugh, that's the bottom line. But you got to be honest with yourself. Are you making them laugh, or is that fair to laugh at? And I'm not the type of person to tell people not to do it, because that same feeling you get is the same feeling I get.
Speaker 1:You're not shitting yourself, buddy you remember your first time not getting a good crowd reaction, your first bomb? How did you come back from that?
Speaker 2:my first bomb, I remember my biggest bomb was I was actually thinking about this shit the other day was I was at TSU, texas Southern University, I think they changed the name to TSU. Oh man, they. Everything was set up First of all. I was like two years into the game and I really didn quite know the state of comedy, you know, or the way it is. And one I couldn't make my people laugh. I couldn't make black people laugh, because one thing I had to figure out and like you know, I understand that I had to figure out how to do that shit. I just couldn't make black people laugh. But I was ready to give it the old college try. You know what I'm saying. So I went up there, I went to this place. First of all, the show was supposed to be in the theater and then we moved into the capitorium. So, yeah, not that many tickets or so. And so from the theater to the capitorium, we were sitting there, we were all some risers. Now, before the show started, they had some lady little, two cousins, come up there and start dancing and they were dancing and she just walked out of the show. They were dancing and once again it was in the cafeteria and the lights were on. It was like it was like a talent show, like it looked like a high school talent show. It was real weird. So it was me, my boy Blame, and this other comic named Bo Peep, and I went up there and I said what's up, ts? They shot me right off the bat. They blew me. At the beginning of the goddamn. I said oh, oh, lord, um, yeah, so you know two of our people. People, they gave me a chance. They all stopped Like. They all was like. You know what he right?
Speaker 2:And I used to have a joke back when I was a young kid why are you writing dirty jokes? And it was a joke that it was supposed to. Did you know the joke starts off? Did you know there's no actual? Like if you didn't know any of my jokes, my jokes tend to go here and then they go this way and it's talking about something that's not the other thing sometimes. And I was like did you know there's no actual? Did you know that there's no actual explanation for having an erection while walking inside of a daycare? It was an old, dirty joke.
Speaker 2:Now, as a Black, I know that shit's not going to fly amongst our people. We're not trying to hear anything else. So walk inside of a day here. What's up who? Nobody screamed what and then they proceeded to boo me. Less in learning than black and making black people laugh. We really don't feel the fuck with things like that. But it's a good joke because it turns into a joke about Michael Jackson. It's a whole thing. It turns into a joke about Michael Jackson. It's a whole like thing. But they weren't really about the. They weren't feeling that my boy after me comes up and makes fun of me and I honestly just like I didn't even want to get paid. I just wanted to get $8 because gas was really cheap back then. Cheap gas was like I think it was like $1 to $2 back then. So I was able to get my little $8 in my gas tank and take my ass back home. So you know, it's fine, I'm good.
Speaker 1:You good, now I can do that now.
Speaker 2:Well, it comes with time.
Speaker 1:I hadn't had a boo moment. But I said a joke at a bar. It was a clean comedy show so I couldn't cuss and I said follow me at Christian Mingle, at As-Salaam-Alaikum. They didn't fuck with me. After that I go back the next week and I just do this set that I already didn't fuck with me. After that I go back the next week and I just do this set that I already didn't do.
Speaker 1:Prior Lady is picking with me. She was sitting at a bar. We had a bar, so she's right there at the bar. I'm sitting in the middle of the bar. I was telling these jokes and this lady just roasted me for three weeks straight. I ain't say nothing, man. That fourth week I lit her ass up. They turned the music on me, they turned the lights off and the microphone. The gal was like you shouldn't have done that. I was like bro, she's been picking me for three weeks. I know I messed up with the As-salamu alaykum joke. She didn't throw the chicken bone at me and everything. I was like yep, I'm good Now if I had a bomb. I did have one. It wasn't even a bomb, it was just some sense of what you're saying about the dancing. I had a guy come up there singing R&B. Never heard of him before. Right Takes his shirt off, he's chest naked and got his V on his waist showing and I'm like man, what is going on Now? You?
Speaker 2:got to tell jokes after that.
Speaker 1:Now I got to tell jokes after this. He's telling everybody yo y'all about to hear some new, unreleased stuff. I come up after him and say nobody knows who you are. All your music is unreleased and new. I'm confused what we're doing here. I did not realize that 80% of the people there was his people. After I got off the stage, two comedians come up to me. Man, you did good, bro, don't worry about it. Let me tell you something. I ran to the car to get it. I'm about to get my ass towed up.
Speaker 2:That was hilarious, that was hilarious. See, it's shit like that. That's why I like Santa like that. It's shit like that. People don't know there's nothing funnier than a comedian bombing, especially when somebody doesn't know how to do the shit. Oh my God, I've had so many times Just having great times in the back of the club, just laughing, not doing a good job, what, what? I don't want you to, I want you to kill, but if you die and I'm dead, oh my god, my friend, we used to, we used to court in the back.
Speaker 2:Man, that's one thing I'm gonna miss. I can't do the hang. I'm too old to hang. I don't feel to hang. You know, that's the shitty part about it. I don't give a fuck about. Like I mean, I'm seen it, I've done it all. I'm married like it's. Like I don't give a fuck about my parents. So like that's, like that's mostly like my problems with that. Like I have no purpose to hang, like without a purpose. You know what I'm saying, you know a purpose, you know what I'm saying, you know. So like that's the one thing about coming.
Speaker 2:Like I came here, like I came to los angeles, like four years ago. I'm gonna find now I'm going back, my biggest problem was like, yeah, I was like I was out there and I don't know what the problem. Right, just did a good set, I did a great set. I was hot. I was like, yeah, man, and I went up to the bar. I was like you know what I'm doing? I have a drink with these fellow comedians, you know, or whatever. I was like I left my wallet in the car. You know, it's just two blocks. I'm gonna go get my boy. I went over there, opened my car door and just sat down, turned the car, drove away. It was all one motion.
Speaker 2:I said, oh shit, I was going the urge to hang In the beginning. That's the fun part. That's the funnest, because you have your friends, you have your peers, you got the people. That everybody's going to make it and that's the beauty of the thing is, the longer you do this, the better you get at it. You can make a living in it. You just got to understand why it is. What is your living going to be? You know what I'm saying. Like you're doing your podcast and stuff like that. Like that's your way in the industry. Like you know probably, you know I have to figure out how to do this. You know what I'm saying. So.
Speaker 2:I mean I do all this stuff like that. I try to, you know, get all these like that Just so I can do more stand-up, so yeah, so basically everything that we do should basically make you do more stand-up, that's all.
Speaker 1:That's it, Because the only reason the podcast came is I had to lay through the chicken bone at me for saying follow me at Christian Mingle and Asalaamu Alaikum. That's the only. I was like I don't think on this comedy and that was like two months into comedy I was like I don't think this comedy, shit gonna work.
Speaker 2:It's hard, it's very hard, man, it really is. The longer you do it, the better you get at it. But it's a marathon, it ain't a sprint. Nah, like I said, 24 years in, they finally had to move to LA.
Speaker 2:The way I got the special was I was at a comedy festival and I got this thing called Best in Show and the people from Comedy on Devils were there and they wanted me to get it out. They wanted me to make it out. I said hey, if I produce it myself, would you like to buy it? They're like we'll see. So I did it and they wanted me to buy it. And so you know it's up to essentially me to distribute it. Don't distribute it, you know what I'm saying. But it's up to you to sell it, you know. So you gotta figure out ways to sell it, figure out ways to get access and seats. It's a tool to get people to watch it and get people to go, come out to your shows, and that's all you need. I've been doing it for so long. I've toured with headliners, national headliners Carlos Mencia, felipe Esparga, pablo Francisco, all of his men. I'll vote with him for what's his name For Black-ish?
Speaker 1:Anthony Anderson.
Speaker 2:Bianco, I'll vote for Bianco. I mean, a lot of them have been working at the Atomic Club in Houston, so they will all come through there. I'll try to get on there. What's the name? Basically, basically, I don't know what it's called. It was weird because when what's it called? When Jesus came, you were sitting and watching it in the green room and he was eating his chicken and he was like you know that shit? And it was like dude, I'm watching John Witherspoon. Watch John Witherspoon, like the shit is weird. The shit is weird. Ralphie May fucking been on his tour bus. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I opened for him a couple times. It's one of those things where you see, like it's, you go in the business, you're doing a bunch of stuff in your opening and then now you just want yours, you want something for you and I call it an ass scene on. You know, I got an ass scene on. Oh shit, he's on the special video. You can see him on this and that and basically that's all. You kind of need to actually get your foot in the door. And on top of that, I'm going to try. Top of that, I'm trying to do cruise ships and stuff like that, because cruise ships it's now One of the guys I was talking to they want more of us on cruise ships Because a lot of us, a lot of Black people, are going on cruise ships.
Speaker 2:Now that's a thing. So they want to see more Black comedians and that's the thing about being a black college you have to learn how to do both people. You know what I'm saying. You have to learn how to do white people. You have to learn how to do black people. Black people are different, but it's honestly like I don't know. It's a better feeling. I guess it's because I'm black, but it's a like I don't know. It's a better feeling. I guess it's because I'm black. You know what I'm saying. But it's a better feeling getting them, but, like I don't know, you have to know how to do that. No offense to white comics. They can just post being them. You know they can be them in the same thing. We have to basically learn how to do it. It's essentially being a Black person in this country, you know, coached.
Speaker 1:Well, we do, we do. Yeah, black audiences man, you got to fight in those rooms. You got to fight literally Win them over.
Speaker 2:My friends used to say, like them, it's with other crowds, with mixed crowds, design, I can't get along. Black crowds is making me laugh. You need to make me laugh. I've had a hard day out there. I've been here.
Speaker 1:You gotta make me laugh yeah yeah, like, and you know yeah black people, we don't laugh, we just go. I got a joke. I was like black people don't laugh, they just make a noise. That's it, that's it okay, type shit.
Speaker 2:Okay, that makes sense, I got my okay, type shit.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, that makes sense, it's rough. It'd be rough. White audiences they'll laugh at you, man, and follow you and want to buy you a drink. Black guys you got to fight, you got to find some kind of universal language or something to make them laugh. But I found out, if you do observational stuff in the beginning, that you sit, don't talk about nobody saying they got unreleased music and they ain't never heard of them, you'll make it pretty far.
Speaker 2:It's one of the things where I mean, yeah, I don't like when people say, uh, because like there'll be a lot of companies like you, gotta dumb it down. It's not a dumbing down, I mean, it's just that you're relating to somebody and in a different way, and they have to understand things a certain different way. It's like we all, we're all different and it's not, we're not. I hate you know the shit. I hate.
Speaker 1:I had a man coming up here man.
Speaker 2:This man's real good, but you got to listen. You got to listen to him. Do the same shit you did to me one day. I do. I don't. It's like I don't know. It's a weird thing. I don't like it.
Speaker 1:You have to listen. I hate this one. Coming to the stage Little chicken foot pussy eater. And they come out on the stage, suck my ass, lick my dick, fuck you bitch. I'm like, damn, I'm like where the jokes at. Thank you very much, kiss my ass and walk off the stage. Coming to the stage Ron Davis Wow. Wow you done, pissed me.
Speaker 2:I'm not doing anything. I don't know what the hell was that.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that guy is talking about.
Speaker 2:I pay my taxes. Yeah, you just essentially reset the room, that's all it is. You sit there and you figure it out and just go. Yeah, all right, I'm actually saying some words. I don't know, I will cuss, cussing won't be in there.
Speaker 1:That's not all I do, that's not all I do, I wouldn't Just going to ask this Was the comedy scene on your side affected after the Cat Williams interview? Because a lot of people here in Virginia took the Cat Williams interview and was like I can relate to Cat and just went on a whole smear campaign. Was it the same way?
Speaker 2:By that time I'm out here. I don't really listen to shit like that. We've been doing that forever. The thing that kills me is they've been trying to make it a black comics thing. It's like no white comics to make it a black comics name and it's like no white comics got beef too. You know what I'm saying? All these comics comedy is a bunch of alphas. I'm sorry, it's a bunch of babies trying to be alphas. It really is. It's a bunch of people. It's the nerds, it's the weirdos, it's the people who are cerebral, thinking in their mind constantly all the time, and then now they're the top guy because we're kind of the smartest people in the room. You know, and you gave us a spotlight. We all do that and it's basically the same shit. The whole Pat Williams thing it's like there are weird people in Hollywood and you can think of him. He threw a fucking couple balls and a couple of them hit this motherfucker. Ain't Nassau Dallas. It is what it is. People are weirdos.
Speaker 2:I had a joke back in the day called and it was basically I'm at a certain point in my age where I find out about heroes and shit, like every single person that I believed in ain't shit. Hulk Hogan's a fucking racist. The guy that tried to do this, the man I fucking. I'm a fucking kid in the 80s. I'm a black comedian who grew up in the 80s. Cosby's my fucking hero, but he's also a goddamn a black comedian who grew up in the 80s. Cosby's my fucking hero, but he's also a goddamn monster. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. He's one of the reasons why I went to college, but he's also a monster. It's weird.
Speaker 2:You turn, turn the point I just did. You know? Uh, uh, uh, what the what's her name? Mother theresa. She was a racist. How about that? Yeah, she would kill people and things like that, and she wasn't really good at her job. She killed a lot of people. A lot of people died under Mother Teresa. It is what it is, man. Some shit happens. It's a duality of human beings. We got horrible people out there. We got bad people out there. But I can't do eh, eh, eh, no more, because this nigga got baby oil. I'm gonna listen to, like I'm not into things, like I'm going to the point where, when I hear things about people, when something happens and it's like, oh man, I enjoy this gentleman.
Speaker 2:I just go with a little piece of my heart going please don't be a monster later, but I'm still. I'm still enjoying this. You know, like R Kelly, we all knew but step in the name of love is fire. It's fire. It's sad to have it, but that's the whole world. We gotta stop.
Speaker 2:I fucking hate Trump so fucking much. Right, and it just seems so. But then their side accepts the shittiness of it. Every single person on our side has got to be the purest thing in the world, like we got to go through this world being righteous. Some people say saying everything's gotta be righteous. No, sometimes people do bad shit and sometimes they're horrible. You just gotta keep that shit moving like that the whole.
Speaker 2:Like like Pat was talking. Like some of the shit that Pat was saying didn't come true. Some of the shit he was saying wasn't like you know didn't come true. Some of the shit he's saying wasn't like you know didn't come true. Like the stuff with him and Kevin Hart, like some of that shit. You know Kevin Hart's not a player. That wasn't true. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He did shit in Philly Fucking him, and Craig Robinson used to go to fucking New York time before. That's a play, you know what I'm saying. He did shit in Philly Fucking him, and Craig Robinson used to go to fucking New York. That's a play, you know what I'm saying. He was going from fucking New York to Philly every fucking night. So I mean, like it's things like that where it's like, yeah, he threw a couple balls, they fucking hit. Yeah, because people are horrible, there are some horrible people in the world and we kind of knew, didn't we? Yeah, he threw a couple balls, they fucking hit. Yeah, because people are horrible. There's some horrible people in the world and we kind of knew, didn't we wasn't shit, you know, we kind of knew, like, what else did he say? What else was it?
Speaker 1:he said, uh, he was like, yeah, uh, steve harvey. And this person held him back like his gatekeeper is all. And here you hear that saying all the time and I just say, like, bro, it's not the fact that you're not getting booked, you're just not funny and you don't have a personality that's what it is.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say he's not funny. I think he is he's. I think he's he's very funny, but he doesn't know how to use the things that he needs to. You know, I have a thing that I can't tell. I can't say about Camille is not funny, it's just, it's just. I think that, uh, I just think they're not a couple of people. A cat isn't the cup of tea of certain people. There's certain people that love him and he's good. Instead of fucking being in that lane, you want all the lanes. That person's not funny. That person's not funny. That person you know what I'm saying that person had to do this. That person stopped me from doing this. Sometimes, shit just don't work out.
Speaker 1:You don't.
Speaker 2:My boys always say even if it's personal, it's not personal. Show me the man. That's it. That's all it is. I think Cat Williams is a person that's extremely funny, but he's not as funny as some of those guys that he named.
Speaker 1:I know Cat Williams is funny, but I'm saying the comedians that come to me and be like yo. I can't get booked here, they hating on me. I'd be like bro. I know you said it's not your cup of tea, but I'd be like yo. It's literally like you're not funny. You got to tighten up your pin game and then it's your personality Because, like you were saying, everybody's abatable wants to be alpha. I say everybody wants to be a. Everybody's abatable wants to be alpha. I say everybody wants to be a big shark in a small pond, like Virginia is not known for comedy at all.
Speaker 2:Dave Chappelle Anshul, lanny Wanda Sykes, martin Lawrence.
Speaker 1:That's there in the deep. Wanda is Newport News. I'll take her. We got Wanda. Coca Brown, Jay Pharoah, Leonard Oates, Martin Martin is from Baltimore. I'm in Virginia, so I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my childhood was at Fairfax, fairfax, virginia. So like, yeah, I don't know, I left when I was in fifth grade. Yeah, I don't. It's one of those things when it's like is bigger than your town anywhere you stop.
Speaker 2:Anyway, you can be in Los Angeles any New York City there's a lot of time. We got some heavy comedians in Texas. In Houston we got some heavy guys in H-Town. H-town is some strong comedians out there, you know, I understand. So you come on in with some bullshit. We hope that you will do the rest. That's just the way. It is the problem with Houston. We like to push industry out. We don't like industry. We all have all types of shit we can do on ourselves, which isn't like you can do it, but it takes too fucking long. Then you got people that are off to Austin to make shit now, because you know that's where all like the guys from LA went out to Austin and it's you got Dave on it. I've never really trusted Austin comic, you know. Like I said, they not my cup of tea. Uh, freaking Dallas guys.
Speaker 2:Like I said they might walk up to you. Frickin' Dallas guys, the Dallas guys, san Antonio guys there's some good guys in Jackson. It's cool being in your city and it's cool, but you gotta get good and get out. You gotta get good, go somewhere else. You can always come back, come back and come out. But you gotta get good and somewhere else you can always come back, come back and come out. But you gotta get good and see what's out there in the street. And that's not even like leaving your town. You gotta fucking tour. You gotta get out, you gotta get out and shit. The cool thing about fucking being on those east coast cities is you're like, real quick, you can get in and out of every motherfucker's like you know what I'm saying real quick, I'll be in car man. Hit up open mics in different cities. Hit it up in baltimore. Hit it up in fucking. Like fucking whatever else is up there.
Speaker 1:I'm high been up there a few times, man baltimore, dc, connecticut you got to hit them all up, man, and that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2:And one cool thing about Houston it's so widespread, right, so you can hit a Hispanic part of the city. You can hit a white part of the city. You can hit the mixed area. You can hit the weird eclectic people over here. You can hit left-wing black people over here. So you can hit left with black people over here. So you can bounce around from places in that city and it makes you learn that you know there's different crowds. So people from Milwaukee are going to be different than people from Chicago Facts, but it is still Midwest Facts. You know what I'm saying. People from California are going to be different from somebody from like what? Arizona, but it's still over here. You know what I'm saying. So like, yeah, you gotta move around, get out of here. Families are always bigger than a city. You just gotta keep going. What will make you laugh? You do something over here. These people are laughing at something else. Keep them cultivated into. Oh shit, I never thought about that.
Speaker 2:Laugh you know, it's just a we. It's a weird thing and it sounds like, uh, gibberish. You know what I'm saying, but it's like you're in another town and they're laughing at something different and you know why they're laughing and you never thought that was funny. That was a funny one. So now, like, a lot of my jokes are just a lot of emphasizing on words, a lot of, like you know, facial expressions and like syllables and things like that. I realize that, but like so, like just doing that and making how people feel it's gonna sound horrible, but I'm not gonna like the H guy, the bad guy.
Speaker 2:In the 40s he used to practice that. He used to practice the inflection. It's moving a crowd. You're an MC. You're moving the crowd. The way you do your voice, the notes that people sing, a thing like that. It's moving a crowd. You're an MC. You're moving the crowd the way you do your voice, the notes that people sing. When people sing, sometimes that shiver in your body that they're really good. That's a thing. You know what I'm saying? That's a thing for humans. So you can do things, you can say something, you can emphasize the words, you can tell the joke a certain different way and it moves other people and then you can learn that from places to places and then it becomes a pretty damn good joke All around, jokes that everybody can kind of like you know, get it In certain words you use, or whatever. But yeah, that's just comedy. I love talking about comedy.
Speaker 1:You alright, you okay, you okay, you okay. So I'm going to say this right here because we're going to end off. You gave a lot of gems about everything that you've done, your take on comedy and your 24 years of experience with a comedy special and acting and finding different lanes. What is you okay? Okay? I said, don't down me because I ain't got health insurance. What is that?
Speaker 2:one piece of motivational advice you can give for any comedian or any creative looking to get into the industry. Show up. 80% of this is what you do off stage. 40% is off stage. Show up be way more likable than you are off stage being in the room. You know what I'm saying. Like, if there's a reason why I love being there, show up going up to the mics. If there's a reason why I'm being there, show up, going up to the mics.
Speaker 2:Fucking sucks. Really hate doing it. May not go through it, but it's a mic. Show the fuck up. You don't know what's going to be there, right? You don't know what you're going to get that night. If something's going on over there, show the fuck up. You know it's just what was it?
Speaker 2:Luck is, when preparation meets opportunity, mm-hmm. You need to prepare for the opportunity. Stay ready, so you ain't got to get ready. Show the fuck up. I mean a lot of it was just Be funny. Stay ready, so you ain't got to get ready. Show the fuck up. I mean a lot of it was just you know, be funny. Be funny, by all means. You can have.
Speaker 2:But the thing is, in this business, man, you can have a C plus likability and an A plus material and nobody gonna want to get you off. You'll be as arrogant as funny. You'll be a funny, arrogant motherfucker. But if they're not likable and here's a couple things If you're not likable and your materials, if you're likable and your materials, c plus, they're gonna move because the people like you, they want to give you stuff, they want you to succeed. You must be likable and a lot of that is showing up and just being a part of the game. None of it is personal, even when it gets personal when somebody looks at you and says don't come to this motherfucker ever again. Keep coming, come on. It's just me.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, I say the same sentiment. Yeah, if they want to get in contact with you, watch the special support you, where can they find you at?
Speaker 2:I'm at Theodore Comedy on everything. Theodore Comedy it's going to be the website. You can have a link tree Theodore Comedy on my link tree. You can go to the comedy dynamics page. Type in me. My name is Theodore ME Taylor. The comedy special is Theodore ME Taylor's Belltie Guy. That's good, it's just a good name. But yeah, I'm Theodore Comedy on everything. I don't have Twitter anymore because fuck that guy. And I've had Instagram, facebook. I'm on Twitter, I'm on TikTok as well as Facebook and that's it.
Speaker 1:And if you guys want to follow me as Comedian Rome Davis, follow the podcast page. There's no ID podcast, but YouTube is Comedian Rome Davis, no ID. You can Google it, you can type it into any type of platform, but I also have an email list. You can sign up and let you know any type of shows, releases, podcasts, episodes, youtube updates. I can get you. But support my man, theodore Taylor, please, with his special and any of his content and his shows. Keep supporting me and this movement that I'm trying to create and I appreciate you, theodore, for coming on to the show I know it was a random.
Speaker 1:DM hey man, you know, my algorithm is nothing but comedy and twerking and you ended up on the comedy I got you. It was one video and one bottle you know what I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I happen to do comedy too.
Speaker 1:We support you anyway over here, you know what? I'm saying Thank you, man.
